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Arduin · Dec 02, 2009, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by worstnameevar

What I can't seem to grasp is the fact that no one in this thread has even mentioned grog. It's timer is clearly shown in the Effects Monitor portion of your screen, you get your full three minutes before the timer runs out so there's leeway in when you need to pop one, and you get to shout random pirate obscenities... who wouldn't want that? There are simpler ways of getting this title other than cheating.

Grog isn't always available.

tasha · Dec 02, 2009, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

I have been wondering how a GM make the difference by using these methods with no third party programs and the "bot programs". If only monitoring they should see the same results. Were is the proof you went afk and looked after 3 min or you simply used a bot clicking every 3 min with a interval of a few sec?

Players click "approximately" after a set amount of time. Bad bots don't, they do it exactly the same duration apart. Double clicking exactly every 60s for an extended period of time leads to the assumption that the person is botting because humans just aren't that accurate. Better bots with a randomised timer are a lot harder to spot using this pattern as they behave more like players and screw up more.

The Drunkard · Dec 02, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

I think anet's intention of banning bots was to try and stop gold selling/farming. I don't really think this is harming anyone at all, people just being a bit lazy by getting a bot to mouseclick.

I've managed to get r1 drunkard casually, but I doubt i'll ever go for r2 without a bot. Party/sugar titles are already painful enough.

bursta91 · Dec 02, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by The Drunkard

I think anet's intention of banning bots was to try and stop gold selling/farming

this...

I know plenty people who used a script//bot for their drunkard title while afking in kama ad1 leaving their item in party search.

Trader of Secrets · Dec 02, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Its harder to spot someone whos afk drunk in a town than a bot whose farming.

UnChosen · Dec 02, 2009, 09:50 PM // 21:50

No, because more effort is being spent on nerfing skills and making areas difficult to impossible for legit pugs, while cheaters/leechers remain untouched.

Winry Sagara · Dec 02, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

I have been wondering how a GM make the difference by using these methods with no third party programs and the "bot programs". If only monitoring they should see the same results. Were is the proof you went afk and looked after 3 min or you simply used a bot clicking every 3 min with a interval of a few sec?

They have many method. Whispering to me or appearing in front of me. If I drink without replying to the GM, I'm botting without any doubt --> BAN. When I was GM, I've used many "tricks" to know if someone is afk or not. For example, you can easily find a bot. If someone click exactly every 1 minute is a bot-user, if someone click 1'1'', 59'' or 1' (not the same time ever) is more difficult that he's a bot-user. There are other methods, I let you fly with your immagination ^^

Lycan Nibbler · Dec 03, 2009, 12:45 AM // 00:45

The simple thing is, dont go overboard with it.. do 2 or three hours max at a time and youd be ok Id reckon. Try and do it all in a few goes and you'll get flagged as theres no way you could be there all that time clicking.

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 03, 2009, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane

No reports, no bans (it would seem).

this, don't use it where people can see you (for example:kamadan ad1 for 10hours=bad choice), and the chances of being banned are microscopic. more than likely not even possible. if anet managed to run a program checking everyone for long-term, mechanically repetitive actions, they prolly wouldn't need to have the bot option on the report feature

and do u know how many people such a program would have to be checking?

LOTS

Tramp · Dec 03, 2009, 02:25 AM // 02:25

if anet cared if you use a programmable keyboard or programable macro mouse or autoclicker...really all three are the same thing (the keyboard and prog mouse has to have the code entered in) then why did they send me a guild wars logo programable Razzor mouse when i won some contest they had 2 years ago? its a nice mouse, the guild wars logo is orange and lights up when you move it. if they are crooked cops who send you some free crack and then bust you for smoking dope, then they are even more screwed up than i think. so i would be shocked to see Regina post here and say that autoclickers are bannable since they sent me my autoclicker mouse with their logo on it!

StormX · Dec 03, 2009, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

All I can say is that when I did it with spiked egnogg, it was possible to do it all the time, zone in, zone out and the drunken effect would be gone and the 3 points added to the drunken title. It was after the update as I remember it didn't work in a lot of outposts anymore. The weird thing was that some areas gave like one point only when zoning, while spiked eggnog gives 3 points normally. So after a while of testing outposts I stumbled upon Nolana Academy where it still worked.

I find that if you are an a party with other people and someone zones out while you are drunk, the full points will be added to your title track. It didn't work when I was alone, but then I didn't test with other areas.

I am so not surprised that some people use a programn to max this... I'm tempted to do so myself. Staring at the screen for hours waiting for the numbers to go up is not fun. They need to at least have an effect icon when you are drunk so you don't waste the alcohol.

Black Metal · Dec 03, 2009, 04:49 AM // 04:49

I'd be paranoid about anything that definitely shows botlike behavior -- how many threads have we seen from people who weren't botting but merely repeating a menial task repeatedly? Plus Anet has shown themselves to be hypocrites and inconsistent time and again when it comes to account suspension/banning.

Personally, here's my advice: hunker down on NFL Sunday, get a box dvd set of some TV series you like, and keep one hand on the mouse. Did my 10k that way.

Zahr Dalsk · Dec 03, 2009, 05:14 AM // 05:14

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Originally Posted by UnChosen

making areas difficult to impossible for legit pugs

PUGs make areas difficult by themselves by being shitty players.

Reverend Dr · Dec 03, 2009, 05:40 AM // 05:40

I don't know of anyone getting banned for using the interrupt bot, much less a harmless one.

Nerel · Dec 03, 2009, 05:51 AM // 05:51

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Originally Posted by Winry Sagara

They have many method. Whispering to me or appearing in front of me. If I drink without replying to the GM, I'm botting without any doubt --> BAN. When I was GM, I've used many "tricks" to know if someone is afk or not. For example, you can easily find a bot. If someone click exactly every 1 minute is a bot-user, if someone click 1'1'', 59'' or 1' (not the same time ever) is more difficult that he's a bot-user. There are other methods, I let you fly with your immagination ^^

And when were you a Guild Wars GM? I ask because I don't think anyone who has been to Bergen Hotsprings would be foolish enough to believe Guildwars GM's actually police ANYTHING in game, instead relying completely on server side scripts to watch for repetitive bot-like actions, and banning or not based completely on the server logs.

Reverend Dr · Dec 03, 2009, 06:25 AM // 06:25

GM's in other games have done such things. But to assume that GM's across all MMO's act in the same ways, have the same tools, and follow the same rules is absurd.

Nerel · Dec 03, 2009, 06:47 AM // 06:47

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

GM's in other games have done such things. But to assume that GM's across all MMO's act in the same ways, have the same tools, and follow the same rules is absurd.

Yep, but I don't think any WoW GMs are going to start issuing bot bans in Guild Wars... we are talking about botting (or macroing drunkard) in Guild Wars aren't we?

zwei2stein · Dec 03, 2009, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

GM's in other games have done such things. But to assume that GM's across all MMO's act in the same ways, have the same tools, and follow the same rules is absurd.

Considering that AOC GM's tend to cybersex with players, i really hope GM's do not all act the same across games.

Nerel · Dec 03, 2009, 08:12 AM // 08:12

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Considering that AOC GM's tend to cybersex with players, i really hope GM's do not all act the same across games.

Maybe this should be moved to the GW should have been P2P thread... because I'm sure the GW GMs won't be cybering us for free... I wonder if they could add it to the in game store?

Has anyone ever actually seen a Guild Wars GM policing in game? (no, not Gaile Q&As that devolve into 'I love minipets' love fests or conga lines...)

Winry Sagara · Dec 03, 2009, 08:56 AM // 08:56

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Originally Posted by Nerel

And when were you a Guild Wars GM?

Absolutely not. In other online games